Before anyone says anything, YES I know she is vulnerable from beginning and at the end.
From my experience, anyway, most of the time I end up getting her at the end of the move. Most of the time when she is using this move she is using this to recover and most of the time it just leads to tech central unless you hit her in a very specific way and it’s very hard to hit her in that very specific way.
Being able to hir her at the beginning doesn’t feel like it really matters when she can just mix it up with Up-B and punish you from trying and also I feel like I’m never in range to hit her from the beginning anyway.
Her recovery is already good with Up-B. It travels a fair bit upward, the hitbox is massive, and it knocks the opponent back a million miles if they get hit by it (essentially just resetting the neutral) and if the Clarien is really good they just snap right to the ledge with it which means they aren’t at risk for being parried.
I don’t think side B needs to go a fair amount of distance to the left or the right, be invunlerable, AND have a random X hitbox on it. It’s obnoxious. There’s also times where you hit her when she’s recovering, she techs and then the X hitbox is exactly where she is.
I believe this one change would make fighting her a little more tolerable because at least you can ACTUALLY edgeguard her without abusing the ledge.
I’m still confused as to why Orcane got this nerf when he had his old side B, but not Clarien.